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Should we move this article to [[William L. Moyer]]? We don't really have a consensus on article titles re people. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 14:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Should we move this article to [[William L. Moyer]]? We don't really have a consensus on article titles re people. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 14:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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:Sure thing. <span style="font-family:Georgia, serif; color:#cccccc;">&mdash;&nbsp;'''''[[User:Admin|admin]]'''''&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;'''''[[User_talk:Admin|talk]]'''''&nbsp;</span> 16:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
  
 
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So, we have your journal and his headstone that indicate [[September 18]]. The City Clerk's history of mayors uses the [[September 21]] date.
 
So, we have your journal and his headstone that indicate [[September 18]]. The City Clerk's history of mayors uses the [[September 21]] date.
  
Whaddya think? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 14:44, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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Whaddya think? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 16:25, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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:Hmm. I'd consider the headstone's date paramount. It's possible the city was simply ''without'' a mayor for those days. If Bear took over on the 21st, maybe they just assumed Moyer's term lasted until then. <span style="font-family:Georgia, serif; color:#cccccc;">&mdash;&nbsp;'''''[[User:Admin|admin]]'''''&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;'''''[[User_talk:Admin|talk]]'''''&nbsp;</span> 16:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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::Agreed. Interesting to note that the Clerk's document specifically says "died 9/21/36", not just referring to his term. Without further evidence to the contrary, though, the headstone date prevails. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 17:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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==''Journal'' headline==
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Haha! I love the headline of the ''Pensacola Journal'' from September 19, 1936: "WILL MOYER NAMED MAYOR; DROPS DEAD"... <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 01:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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==Quotes==
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The ''Louisville Journal & Republican'' quote is, "I assure you gentlemen you have elected a good, strong Democrat."
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The ''Pensacola Journal'' quote is, "I assure you that you have elected a good, staunch Democrat as your mayor."
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Any preference? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 01:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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:''Pensacola Journal'', definitely. <span style="font-family:Georgia, serif; color:#cccccc;">&mdash;&nbsp;'''''[[User:Admin|admin]]'''''&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;'''''[[User_talk:Admin|talk]]'''''&nbsp;</span> 06:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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==Birth year==
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Do you have any source on the 1866 year? The ''Journal'' obit says 1867. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 02:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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:[http://www.pensapedia.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=William_L._Moyer&diff=next&oldid=15394 Dude!] <span style="font-family:Georgia, serif; color:#cccccc;">&mdash;&nbsp;'''''[[User:Admin|admin]]'''''&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;'''''[[User_talk:Admin|talk]]'''''&nbsp;</span> 06:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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::Oh wow. I am so dumb. I thought you added it in with your edits. So dumb. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; vertical-align:5%; font-family: Georgia,serif; color:#cccccc;">—&nbsp;'''[[User:Dscosson|dscosson]]''' • '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]'''&nbsp;</span> 19:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

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According to that Journal & Republican article, "D. L. [sic; 'D' for 'Dubya'?] Moyer … dropped dead less than a hour after the action [to remove Armstrong]," which contradicts our previous info showing him in office for four days. The New York Times has an earlier article from September 19, which I haven't purchased yet but doesn't seem to mention anyone dropping dead. I'm guessing the J&R conflated the events for embellishment. — admin • talk  21:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Haha... that's just like those 1930s Republican journals. — dscossontalk  22:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Article title[edit]

Should we move this article to William L. Moyer? We don't really have a consensus on article titles re people. — dscossontalk  14:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing. — admin • talk  16:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Death date[edit]

Hey, new kink in the mix re his date of death... His headstone in St. Michael's says September 18.

So, we have your journal and his headstone that indicate September 18. The City Clerk's history of mayors uses the September 21 date.

Whaddya think? — dscossontalk  16:25, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. I'd consider the headstone's date paramount. It's possible the city was simply without a mayor for those days. If Bear took over on the 21st, maybe they just assumed Moyer's term lasted until then. — admin • talk  16:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. Interesting to note that the Clerk's document specifically says "died 9/21/36", not just referring to his term. Without further evidence to the contrary, though, the headstone date prevails. — dscossontalk  17:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Journal headline[edit]

Haha! I love the headline of the Pensacola Journal from September 19, 1936: "WILL MOYER NAMED MAYOR; DROPS DEAD"... — dscossontalk  01:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Quotes[edit]

The Louisville Journal & Republican quote is, "I assure you gentlemen you have elected a good, strong Democrat."

The Pensacola Journal quote is, "I assure you that you have elected a good, staunch Democrat as your mayor."

Any preference? — dscossontalk  01:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Pensacola Journal, definitely. — admin • talk  06:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Birth year[edit]

Do you have any source on the 1866 year? The Journal obit says 1867. — dscossontalk  02:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Dude! — admin • talk  06:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh wow. I am so dumb. I thought you added it in with your edits. So dumb. — dscossontalk  19:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)