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Whoaaaaaaaaaaa how have I never seen this before!!!?!?!?!!!!!!1111 — dscossontalk  11:20, 5 December 2009 (CST)

I know, right! It's on display in the Historical Society's library, I did a Google search for the illustrator and found a digitized version straightaway. The numbers are a little blurry, but still! — admin • talk  11:30, 5 December 2009 (CST)

Numbers

Speaking of the blurry numbers, I'm going to need help finding some of these. Just a few examples: I'm pretty sure the big cylindrical tower on Palafox north of Lee Square was a water tower, i.e. #7 Water Works Stand Pipe, even though it looks like #5. Not sure what the building on Guillemard and DeSoto is... I'd guess either the Water Works Pumping Station (since that's where the later Water Works Building was built) or the Gas Works. But the one on Tarragona between Cervantes & Strong could be either one of those too. Any insight? — admin • talk  11:38, 6 December 2009 (CST)

Yeah, that's definitely the Water Works Stand Pipe at Palafox and Cervantes. I am having trouble seeing some of these numbers. Is there a number around the structure at Guillemard and de Soto? I can't see one. I'd guess your guess is probably right though. The structure you're talking about on Tarragona between Cervantes and Strong is the little teeny thing on the NE corner of Cervantes and Tarragona? I'm not sure. — dscossontalk  12:05, 6 December 2009 (CST)
Re: Guillemard & DeSoto, it looks like there's a number on the roof, resembles a 9, but don't think the Public School had a smokestack. Re: Tarragona & Cervantes, I think it's that whole complex, with the number 5 on the roof. The thing on the corner looks like some of cynlindrical wireframe structures I saw in an image search for "gas works".

#32 is mislabelled as the "I. M. Hilliard" carriage factory, when it is in fact the J. M. Hilliard Carriage Company. Our article for that places it at 30 East Garden which would place it on the north side of Garden between Palafox and Brue, but I can't see any numbers on that area of the map. — dscossontalk  12:12, 6 December 2009 (CST)

Maybe it's the building on the south side of Garden, with the smoke stack in rear? — admin • talk  13:11, 6 December 2009 (CST)
Maybe. The source of the 30 East Garden Street address is the ad depicted on our J. M. Hilliard Carriage Company article. The even-numbered address indicates a building on the north side of Garden. For instance, Reynalds Music House [1] is 36 East Garden. 30 East Garden would be in the middle of the Jefferson Street extension. Of course, that ad with that address is from 1897, it's possible it moved between 1896 and 1897 but probably not. Alternately, it's possible that the 30 East Garden address from the ad was simply an office and the actual factory was elsewhere. — dscossontalk  13:19, 6 December 2009 (CST)

#57 is marked on Main Street about an inch to the right of #58. It refers to the structure on the NE corner of Main and de Villiers. I've seen the hospital marked in that position on a Sanborn map. — dscossontalk  12:16, 6 December 2009 (CST)

Good eye, thanks! — admin • talk  13:11, 6 December 2009 (CST)

I think #46 may be the wharf at the foot of Commendencia Street . I think #70 may be there also, it's very hard to make out. — dscossontalk  12:21, 6 December 2009 (CST)

I had thought that was #45, thinking it was the L&N Marine Terminal Building, but the article says that building wasn't built for another 8 years. Do you see another 45? — admin • talk  13:11, 6 December 2009 (CST)
I think it's 46, but no, I can't find another 45 offhand. — dscossontalk  14:28, 6 December 2009 (CST)
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Strike that, I believe I've found 44 and 45. See image at right. — dscossontalk  14:34, 6 December 2009 (CST)

Out of order

Any particular reason some of the numbers are out of order, i.e. 43 is followed by 52? — dscossontalk  14:28, 6 December 2009 (CST)