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Get The Story Right
Administrator—I am interested in getting this story right. I have followed this story very carefully, and Much of this information was added to the discussion section last week but it has subsequently been deleted. I’ll try again. I do believe Bergosh's initial confession was made off the record, and I have changed the phrasing in the piece. I have supporting information for this change below.
You contend that you do not believe that Bergosh’s admission was given off the record, but Bergosh himself claims that the admission was. See this article http://www.inweekly.net/article.asp?artID=5842
<blockquote>“The Gannett-owned daily says Bergosh admitted posting as Godzilla and then called back denying it. It also quoted Escambia County School District Associate Superintendent Ronnie Arnold asserting that Bergosh told him he was Godzilla. Bergosh denies both accounts, claiming he told a PNJ reporter off the record that he was Godzilla. “</blockquote>
Even if you don’t believe the Bergosh version, in the interest of objectivity and impartiality, you ought to work this quote into the piece. That would be appropriate.
Even if you don’t believe the Bergosh version, in the interest of objectivity and impartiality, you ought to work this quote into the piece. That would be appropriate.
Also, to bolster this Bergosh version, a public record email exists that casts doubt on the Rabb/Arnold version of the story. It was sent out by Ronnie Arnold on October 3rd—mind the date, because it was after the Rabb/Bergosh interview but before the front page expose. According to Rabb/Arnold version of story, they both knew Bergosh was Godzilla on/by this 10/3 date ( Rabb from an interview on 10/2, Arnold from a luncheon in September) Bergosh answered Arnold’s email, maintaining his official on the record position that he was not Godzilla. Arnold’s initiating email is on the bottom, Bergosh’s response is on the top. This is a valid, public record email that can be easily verified, and I would encourage the administrator to look into it to verify it's veracity.
<blockquote>From: Jeff Bergosh Wednesday - October 3, 2007 4:56 PM<br/>
To: Arnold, Ronnie; School Board Members <br/>
CC: Dwelle, Jackie; English, Linda; Ross, Norm; Waters, Donna; West, Linda<br/>
Subject: Jeff Bergosh<br/>
To My Fellow Board Members,<br/><br/>
From: Jeff Bergosh Wednesday I regret the fact that our Associate Superintendent for Public & Interagency Affairs felt he somehow had the duty to send you the below email regarding alleged posters on the Pensacola News Journal" Blog". Mr. Arnold and I met two weeks ago on this very subject and at that time he confronted me with his suspicion about posters on a blog. I denied these baseless allegations then, and put the issue to rest. I guess Mr. Arnold wanted or felt compelled to keep this non- October 3story going by sending you what amounts to a continuation of a hunch or suspicion (below email). With a plethora of much more important issues to attend to, 2007 4:56 PMTo: I find it quite amazing that Mr. Arnold, Ronnie; School Board Members CC: Dwelle, Jackie; English, Linda; Ross, Norm; Waters, Donna; West, LindaSubject: Jeff BergoshTo My Fellow Board Members,would feel that this issue had reached the level that it warranted an "explanation" email. Let me assure you it does not. <br/><br/>
I have asked some tough questions at meetings lately, and taken some positions opposite of what some in the district wanted--and therefore it seems as though I have made someone angry. I make no apologies for taking the positions I take on issues I feel passionate about, so I can handle it when folks want to take shots at me. I do not march lock-step with anyone, period. Anyone who knows me knows that. In this particular case, people want to perpetrate accusations and innuendos about me based upon entries someone has made on a blog. WOW--Must be a slow news day! I think the whole thing is quite childish and I certainly hope that the Associate Superintendent for Public & Interagency Affairs can find issues more important to the district to investigate beyond these trivial matters.<br/><br/>
This issue comes to you now because yesterday I was approached by the PNJ Educational reporter, Sara Rabb. Mrs. Rabb and I had a frank discussion on many issues surrounding education in Escambia County. During the conversation, she asked if I regret was a certain poster on the fact PNJ blog. I denied it and I laughed because Mr. Ronnie Arnold had also recently accused me of being this blogger. Mrs. Rabb, not knowing that our Associate Superintendent for Public & Interagency Affairs felt he somehow had made the duty to send you same accusation, may have misinterpreted my reaction. I thought the below email regarding alleged posters on the Pensacola News Journal" Blog". issue was ironic and humorous, due To Mr. Arnold and others suspecting I met two weeks ago on this very subject and at that time he confronted me with his suspicion about posters on a was some blogposter--- but my amusement was NOT an affirmation. I unequivocally denied these baseless allegations thenthis accusation to Mrs. Rabb, and put the issue I have spoken with her again to restreiterate my position. I guess Mr. Arnold wanted or felt compelled to keep would most certainly hope that you, my fellow board members, would take this non-story going by sending you for what amounts to a continuation of it is, a hunch or suspicion (below email)big nothing. With a plethora of much more important issues to attend to, I find it quite amazing that Mr. Arnold would feel that this issue had reached the level that it warranted an "explanation" email. Let me assure you it does not. <br/><br/>
I have asked some tough questions at meetings lately, and taken some positions opposite of what some in the district wanted--and therefore it seems as though I have made someone angry. I make no apologies for taking the positions I take on issues I feel passionate about, so I can handle it when folks want to take shots at me. I do not march lock-step with anyone, period. Anyone who knows me knows that. In this particular case, people want to perpetrate accusations and innuendos about me based upon entries someone has made on a blog. WOW--Must be a slow news day! I think the whole thing is quite childish and I certainly hope that the Associate Superintendent for Public & Interagency Affairs can find issues more important to the district to investigate beyond these trivial matters.Jeff Bergosh<br/>Escambia County School Board District 1<br/><br/>
DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL--CONFIDENTIAL <br/><br/>
This issue comes to you now because yesterday I was approached by the PNJ Educational reporter, Sara Rabb. Mrs. Rabb and I had a frank discussion on many issues surrounding education in Escambia County. During the conversation, she asked if I was a certain poster on the PNJ blog. I denied it and I laughed because Mr. >>> Ronnie Arnold had also recently accused me of being this blogger. Mrs. Rabb, not knowing that our Associate Superintendent for Public & Interagency Affairs had made the same accusation, may have misinterpreted my reaction. I thought the issue was ironic and humorous, due To Mr. Arnold and others suspecting I was some blog poster--- but my amusement was NOT an affirmation. I unequivocally denied this accusation to Mrs. Rabb, and I have spoken with her again to reiterate my position. I would most certainly hope that you, my fellow board members, would take this non-story for what it is, a big nothing. 10/3/2007 12:55 PM >>><br/>Board Members:<br/><br/>
I am currently in Tallahasse on legislative business. I received a troubling call today from Sara Rabb of the Pensacola News Journal. Sara indicated to me that the PNJ had suspicions about Mr. Bergosh being the blogger named "Godzilla." She further stated that a search of the IP address used by the blogger belonged to Mr. Bergosh. <br/><br/>
Jeff She further stated that in her interview with Mr. BergoshEscambia County School Board District 1about this matter, he had indicated that I had questioned him about this a couple of weeks ago. I confirmed that fact. <br/><br/>
DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL--CONFIDENTIAL While I have been typing this, I have received a call of a similar nature from Rick Outzen of the Indepengret thedent Weekly.<br/><br/>
I would suspect that board members may be receiving calls on this issue as well and wanted to give you a "heads up."<br/><br/>
>>> Ronnie Arnold 10<br/3><br/2007 12:55 PM >>>Board Members:
I am currently in Tallahasse on legislative business. I received a troubling call today from Sara Rabb Ronnie Arnold, Associate Superintendent<br/>Public & Interagency Affairs<br/>The School District of the Pensacola News JournalEscambia County<br/>215 W. Sara indicated to me that the PNJ had suspicions about MrGarden St. Bergosh being the blogger named "Godzilla<br/>Pensacola, FL 32502<br/>(850) 469-6135<br/>(850) 469-6172 (fax)<br/>rarnold2@escambia." She further stated that a search of the IP address used by the blogger belonged to Mrk12. Bergoshfl. us</blockquote>
She further stated that in her interview with MrAdministrator—this email opens many questions. Bergosh about this matter, he had indicated that I had questioned him about this a couple of weeks ago. I confirmed that fact.  While I have been typing this, I have received a call of a similar nature from Rick Outzen of the Indepengret thedent Weekly. I would suspect that board members may be receiving calls on this issue as well and wanted to give you a "heads up." Ronnie
Ronnie #If Rabb had an in the can on the record admission from Bergosh on 10/2, why would she be contacting Arnolda day after the confession with a “suspicion”#Why would Arnold not just confirm that he “knew” Bergosh was Godzilla, Associate Superintendentfrom the luncheon in September? Why this email?Public & Interagency AffairsThe School District of Escambia County215 W. Garden St.Pensacola#When the story broke a day after this email, FL 32502(850) 469-6135(850) 469-6172 (fax)rarnold2@escambia.k12.fl.us   Administrator—this the suspicion turned into “Bergosh Confessed”? This email opens many questions, when the date within the timeline is considered, really throws the PNJ angle into a different light.
1. If Rabb had an in The fact of the can on matter is that the record admission from Bergosh on 10/2PNJ was going to run The Godzilla story with or without Bergosh’s consent, and he never admitted being Godzilla to anyone, officially, why would she be contacting Arnold a day after until the October 8th radio interview.{{unsigned|74.163.22.111}}:I will do some more research into the confession with matter and see how we can come to a “suspicion”2consensus. Why would The Ronnie Arnold angle of this story had not just confirm that he “knew” Bergosh was Godzillayet been addressed in the article. '''In the meantime, from please do not make any more edits to the luncheon in September? Why this email?3article. When ''' For one thing, it undermines our reference system; the story broke sentence you most recently changed was followed by a citation to a day after this emailPNJ article, but the suspicion turned into “Bergosh Confessed”? revised sentence was not supported by that source. This emailsystem of citing verifiable sources is extremely important to Pensapedia, when and the date within biggest conundrum of this particular issue is that your claims are not verifiable; the timeline only thing we have to go on is consideredMr. Bergosh's word against the News Journal's. Are you suggesting that, really throws since Mr. Bergosh never admitted to being Godzilla in the PNJ angle into a different lightRabb interview, that her quotes attributed to Mr. Bergosh ("You got me," "Everything that I write, I believe," etc.) were completely fabricated? --[[User:Admin|Admin]] 07:36, 3 December 2007 (CST)
The fact of Admin, I feel your latest edit to the article addresses anon's concerns about the on/off the matter is record status. It presents that the PNJ was going to run The Godzilla story with or as Bergosh's POV without Bergosh’s consentestablishing it as fact, and he never admitted being Godzilla to anyone, officiallyis properly sourced. '''[[User:Dcosson|dcosson]]''' ··· '''[[User talk:Dcosson|talk]]''' 09:31, until the October 8th radio interview.3 December 2007 (CST)